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Iemand ervaring met dit fenomeen?

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read. ... e=41443251

Mij eerste ervaringen in het reportage zijn ook ontluisterend....... ik word daar niet blij van.

Voorbeeld foto's volgen!

Gary Friedman heeft ook veel problemen ondervonden met flitsen. Ik zoek zijn blog even voor je op en dan zet ik die hier nog bij.
Ik quote even uit zijn blog:...."But there's another, less official reason. I'm still not comfortable with the A77's flash exposure algorithms. (The A65 too.) Both cameras tend to overexpose the subject by about one stop compared to all previous cameras, regardless of the flash being used. It happens weather I'm using the pop-up flash, the 58, or 56 flashes. It happens indoors and outdoors, bounced or not, with the electronic first curtain shutter feature enabled or disabled, ADI or TTL. Firmware version 1.03 AND 1.04. (It's frustrating, I tell you!)"

verderop schrijft hij zijn voorlopige oplossing: "....So while I'm not sure what the root of the problem could be, I have found a solution. (Mostly.) When I set the Flash Exposure Compensation to -1.0 or -1.3, the flash exposures match what the previous cameras produce (hence it behaves the way I expect it to), plus the large deviations in flash exposures goes away almost

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Ik heb tijdens een reportage voor de krant mijn Alpha 77 & Konica Minolta 5600 HS (D ) als 'schaduwcamera' meegenomen naast de 'vaste' Alpha 900 & HVL 58 combi.
Beide flitsers in 45 Graden + Omnibounce.

Waar ik bij de A900 vaak tot 2 stops in de plus moet deed de A77 precies het omgekeerde.
Zonder enige correctie kwam ik aan 1 a 2 stops te veel......
Alleen nog getest 'met' omnibounce........


A 77 + SAL 16-50 // Konica Minolta 5600 HS ( D) + Omnibounce

Rechtsreeks ADI flitsen lijkt goed te gaan, maar daar moet ik nog even dieper in duiken........

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....So while I'm not sure what the root of the problem could be, I have found a solution. (Mostly.)
When I set the Flash Exposure Compensation to -1.0 or -1.3, the flash exposures match what the previous cameras produce (hence it behaves the way I expect it to), plus the large deviations in flash exposures goes away almost

Ik heb inmiddels onder een van de geheugenplaatsen al een -1 correctie op de flitser ingesteld.

Met verder mijn vaste OpaRazzo basis- instellingen..................... ( ISO 400 / F5.6 etc )

Doet 'het flits-probleem'van de camera natuurlijk niet de wereld uit.

Voorlopig maar even met deze work-around werken....

Vr G N

p.s. ik zie nu ook dat de 'Automatische Witbalans' bij flitswerk een 'Automatische Roze Balans' wordt...

Wie heeft in Groningen een A77 om te testen? Wordt nu heel nieuwsgierig!

Ach .. weer een goede reden voor firmware versie 1.05

Ik heb firmware Vs 1.05 al op de A77 zitten.
Hiermee heb ik dus getest!!

Ben nu op zoek naar testervaringen. Flitswerk met de Alpa 77 /65.

ADI, Pop-Up flitser, Konica Minolta flitsers, Sony Flitsers 1e en 2e generatie, Bounced, Wireless etc........

Goed belicht? Consistent goed belicht? Zwaar overbelicht? Consistent zwaar overbelicht? Russische roulette?

Vr Gr N

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Laatste 'Friedman Report'
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Hi, all.

Here's the latest update from my flash exposure accuracy saga with the A65 and A77. Recall that I was having flash exposure accuracy issues at times, which went away (mostly) when flash exposure compensation was set to -1 or -1.3. Others on this forum experienced the same thing; although some happily reported no problems whatsoever. Once the book on the A65/A77 was finished I sent the camera in to Sony with a CD-ROM containing documented examples and the original files so the EXIF files could be examined.

A week in I got two voice messages with what can only be described as an inarticulate Sony repair technician, saying that he's going to replace the hot shoe. I called back almost immediately and left a message reminding him that the issue occurs with the pop-up flash as well, so it's probably not a hot shoe issue. Never heard back from that guy.

10 days later I got my camera back just hours before leaving on our flight to Copenhagen. The enclosed paper said "camera is working within Sony's established parameters" and there was nothing indicating that any work had been done. I fired off a couple of test shots with FEC=0 and sure enough, it looked overexposed. I set it to -1 and packed for the plane. And I've been working / speaking just about every day since I got here so there's been no time to investigate further; however I'm beginning to believe that this is now the new "normal" for Sony's camera bodies. Not only have I had to set FEC = -1 on the A65, but also my new NEX-7 which finally arrived about a month ago.

One of the events I was speaking at on Monday was hosted by Sony Denmark, and I've been trying to see if anyone here can put me in touch with an engineer in Japan to ask about this issue. How is the flash metering done now, since in cameras like the NEX-7 there is no "other" sensor to measure the pre-flash? Are they even trying to make things work predictably like they did in the old days, or is their goal of handling more and more difficult lighting automatically starting to affect the flash decision-making process too? (This was definitely evident in the A550.)

So far I'm still in the dark (no pun intended) about all of these issues. But as long as I keep the setting to -1 or so I'm a lot less stressed about the camera screwing up an important shot. It doesn't seem to happen to me anymore.

But I have more immediate things to worry about now. I'm scheduled to conduct a photo Field Workshop on Saturday and rain is predicted. Off to work out a Plan B...

-Gary Friedman

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Avond opname met de Alpha 77 & Konica Minolta 5600 HS (D)
Normaliter corrigeer ik hier 1.5 to 2 stops in de plus.....
Hier geen correctie toegepast......... Bewijst dat de camera met flitser flink overbelicht.....

dit is toch gewoon heel erg okay? De mensen zijn niet kapot geflitst en de omgeving is ook nog goed zichtbaar.